M. C. A. Hogarth ([info]haikujaguar) wrote,
@ 2008-05-06 12:06:00
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Entry tags:books, excerpts, jokka, the worth of a shell

Philosophy, Jokku Style
On the bright side, I started skipping around The Worth of a Shell and found myself reading it to the end. Aside from some minor copy-edits, I don't think I'll end up changing anything. I still believe this book. I can't wait to make it available.

      "I think we're safe," I said quietly.
      "Good!"
      "For now," I finished.
      We stood in silence, enveloped in the cool hand of the forest. Dlane gulped at the air, sounding alarmingly like she trying not to sob.
      "Ke anadi?"
      "Will it ever end?" she asked, the intonation that might have made it a question failing. "You've killed fourteen beasts and saved me from two searchers. How much longer can we be so lucky?"
      "This isn't luck, ke anadi," I said, pulling her into my arms and resuming our course down the stream. She did not resist.
      "And now without food or clothing or even your spear! How will we survive?"
      "As Jokka always have. Through skill and intelligence, and perhaps the will of the Trinity."
      "The Trinity," she said bitterly. "What Trinity? What gods?"
      "Hush, ke anadi, you're talking nonsense," I said. She could take many things from me, my anadi, but my faith in the Brightness, World and Void… that she would not have.
      Perhaps she sensed my rejection… whatever the case she rested against my chest without speaking. Her body was damp, and the soft hairs cloaking her feet had curled from the run. I found a rhythm and strode down the ravine, trying not to disturb the water.
      "Intelligence," Dlane murmured. "Always intelligence. If it is intelligence through which we survive, why do we destroy it in a third of our population?"
      I opened my mouth, then frowned. "We do not destroy intelligence, ke anadi."
      "Yes we do," Dlane said. "Breeding the anadi. It kills their minds."
      Exasperated, I asked, "And the alternative? Shall we get children on animals?"
      "In the end, that is exactly what we do," Dlane said. "And I would end up as intelligent and malleable as a ñedsu. Point me in a direction and give me a simple command, and wailing and moaning I follow."
      The image so revolted me I stumbled.
      "You see?"
      "What can I say?" I said. "What would you have us do? If we did not breed, we would grow old. There would be no laughter of the young to sustain us. The last of us would finally die and there would be no Jokka. The wind would chase clean the fields we tended, the towns we built, scour them from the earth, and it would be as if we never lived. What would the world be then?"
      "I don't know," Dlane said. "Would it matter? We would not be there to see it."
      "A world without Jokka!" I didn't stop because the motions had become mechanical, beyond my control. I walked because stopping, I would fall. "I cannot fathom it! Dlane… we are our race."
      "Why does it matter so much to you?" she asked, golden eyes rising to mine. I did not spare a glance for her; to do so would be to drown in the gold, to acknowledge her utter earnestness. To acknowledge that she could hold the death of our race in her mind with enough detachment to measure whether it was good or bad. "You will die, Thenet… and after that, you will know no more, or at least have no more concern with the Jokka."
      "How do you know?" I asked. "My death will not make me any less a Jokkad."
      "You'll be dead, Thenet. The only Jokku thing about you then will be your corpse, and even that will rot away and return to the earth," Dlane said.
      I almost dropped her.
      "When I die," I said, staring down at her, "I will be embraced by the World. It will help me to my feet and anoint me with the paint and long-cloth of the Earth and Wind. It will give me eyes of the Sky, so that I may hold the Brightness without blinking, and scales of stars that I may be held by the Void without shivering. With a spear I will hunt the unmaking spirits with all my comrades at my side, and make safe the World for the Jokka still living."
      Dlane said, "For all eternity."
      "For all eternity," I agreed.
      "How wearisome," Dlane said.


Stardancer Home.


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[info]siadea
2008-05-06 04:32 pm UTC (link)
Oh, wow. Oh, oh, oh wow. I hope you're coming up with ideas for how to disseminate this one, because I really want to read it all. (The snippets, how tantalizing!)

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[info]haikujaguar
2008-05-06 04:34 pm UTC (link)
In autumn I'm going to send this one to my layout person; I hope to have it available by mid-winter, with illustrations and a glossary and a nice cover. Probably be about $8, on Amazon. :)

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[info]siadea
2008-05-06 05:00 pm UTC (link)
Do want!

Ahem. *laughs*

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[info]wispfox
2008-05-06 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Want!

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[info]arielstarshadow
2008-05-06 04:33 pm UTC (link)
You can't wait?? *I* can't wait! :)

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[info]beetiger
2008-05-06 04:35 pm UTC (link)
Haven't thought about the Jokka in a while. I really enjoy them.

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[info]koogrr
2008-05-06 05:30 pm UTC (link)
"Johanu" was a name I came up with for a jokka character (used with permission) of mine. I wrote a nice background; unfortunately the roleplay never went anywhere.

The name lingered as yet another 're-working' of myself. I've been using it here and there... so always thinking of jokka, essentially.

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[info]archangelbeth
2008-05-06 06:07 pm UTC (link)
Editor mode: sounding alarmingly like she trying not to sob -- missing "was"?

I think I like Dlane.

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[info]haikujaguar
2008-05-06 06:07 pm UTC (link)
Yep. Like I said, mostly copy-edits. :)

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[info]archangelbeth
2008-05-06 07:36 pm UTC (link)
*hangs head, points to icon's tag*

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[info]haikujaguar
2008-05-06 07:41 pm UTC (link)
lol

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[info]endlessland
2008-05-06 07:17 pm UTC (link)
And I thought I loved Dlane before! This is a wonderful snippet... Thenet so certain, Dlane so cynical.

In conclusion: eee, Jokku!

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[info]level_head
2008-05-06 07:22 pm UTC (link)
Nicely done.

I have long been impressed, HaikuJaguar. But I had not previously realized just how much you have created. (As a trivial aside, anyone who names herself after a form of poetry has bonus points already. This is especially trivial considering your body of actual work.)

It occurs to me, reading this passage, that people who are not enjoying themselves in this world don't have a strong desire for long life, nor do they automatically consider the notion of an afterlife a good thing.

Diane's commentary has just a bit of the flavor of Mark Twain's "Letters from the Earth", though in that story Satan (as just an angel doing some sightseeing) was writing home about the humans and their notions of Heaven.

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[info]haikujaguar
2008-05-06 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Have you read Taylor Caldwell?


(As an aside, I have been working for many years.... while I may have a large body of work, not all of it is worth reading!)

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[info]level_head
2008-05-06 09:21 pm UTC (link)
I have not, though I'd certainly heard of her. A brief look around turned up this bit in Wikipedia:
In The Captains and the Kings (1976) Caldwell takes on the global power brokers. In this book we find, running through the story line, a description of the way the international financiers and industrialists (all private consortiums owned buy an elite of the world's richest families and persons) hijack governments around the globe; instigating wars and gaining control over the warring countries through manipulation of the enormous debts incurred during a war. Mentioned too is the Council on Foreign Relations; and while a disclaimer states that all persons portrayed in the book are fictional, it is clear that the Council on Foreign Relations, as well as another major organization of the globalists are both very real organizations. Also described is the idea that political systems everywhere, and certainly in the US, are almost totally dominated by the ruling elite; and that no one even gets into the running for a major political office unless the elite believes the person is under their control. It is explained that this can be direct control; e.g., the candidate takes a solemn oath to be true to that organization above all others; or indirect control: the candidate is known to have done something illegal or scandalous. The threat of public exposure can then be used to bend the person to the will of the elite. Politicians can also be compromised through a "set-up". When necessary the elite will play that hand (conform or be ruined by the controlled media). It is further explained that there have been a few who were not under the control of the elite (back in the 40s and 50s) and who had some success on their own. These individuals were not corruptible and in such cases very dirty tricks were employed against them. There is a figure in the book obviously symbolising JFK, who went along with the elitists, (his father's cronies) but who once in power went his own way - resulting in his assassination.
This sentiment, while describing a fictional story written decades ago, is pretty popular in modern imaginings.

I don't happen to think it's even remotely true, and I've spent a bit of time in the company of some of these Captains and Kings -- but it's popular nonetheless. ];-)

She certainly turned out an impressive amount of work, and is quite respected from my previous understanding and everything I can see now. What would you recommend as an "essential" starting place?

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[info]haikujaguar
2008-05-06 09:22 pm UTC (link)
The reason I asked is because she wrote an interesting small book entitled "Dialogues with the Devil," which was composed of letters between Michael and Lucifer debating the worthiness of Man to love God. Oddly, these letters took into account more genial peoples on other worlds who love God better (!).

She also wrote I, Judas, which to this day remains stark in my memory.

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[info]level_head
2008-05-06 09:58 pm UTC (link)
I had to laugh just now. I'd written a bit earlier: "It occurs to me, reading this passage, that people who are not enjoying themselves in this world don't have a strong desire for long life, nor do they automatically consider the notion of an afterlife a good thing."

And then the first Taylor Caldwell quotes I encountered were these:

Are we not all desperate one way or another?
- - - - -
Even the most malignant gods would not continue to inflict life upon humanity, time without end.
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I am deeply convinced that happiness does not exist in this world.
- - - - -
I am not convinced that there is such a thing as a soul.
- - - - -
I am the skeptic of skeptics.
- - - - -
I gratefully look forward to oblivion, but I must be sure of it.




Taylor, meet Diane. ];-)

(Bizarrely, these quotes sounded in my mind in the voice of "Princess Bala" from Antz (played by Sharon Stone) The character is nothing like her, I don't think; I guess it was a couple of similar turns of phrase.)

I'm a not-hostile-to-religion atheist, but I suspect that I'm rather happier about it than Ms. Caldwell was at the time of these quotes. ];-)

And so much of her writing seems to have been focused on religious topics. Interesting.

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[info]haikujaguar
2008-05-06 10:28 pm UTC (link)
Well, I found her writing affecting... I admit I have not read the Lewis work, but I have always liked discussions between angels and angels, or angels and men. I might have to go look it up... in my copious free time (she says while chasing after a crawling baby).

And it's Dlane with an 'l', not an 'i,' as an aside. I keep reading that and thinking, "Who is he talking about?" *chuckle* :)

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[info]tuftears
2008-05-06 08:52 pm UTC (link)
I look forward to reading this someday!

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[info]razzek
2008-05-06 11:19 pm UTC (link)
Gwah! I still need to e-mail you about the one and only thing that bothered me about the book. o.O Also, how is Dlane's name pronounced? I can't actually type it out phonetically because I don't know how to put into text the sound I make for her name (this happens when you decide to learn a bit of Swahili as a child). :D

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[info]eseme
2008-05-07 03:05 am UTC (link)
Oh neat. All the of the short stories I have been able to read were about the neuters and written mostly from their POV. I felt very bad for the females, especially the one who wasn't allowed to adventure anymore after her third change left her female.

The insanity... that bothered me and has a real and visceral fear attatched to it. I am happy to run into Dlane, fighting for her gender.

I would love a Jokka short story collection. Some of those shorts were published in magazines that haven't updates their websites or released an issue in years. Being able to read all the shorts... that would be great!

Edited at 2008-05-07 03:06 am UTC

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[info]ysabetwordsmith
2008-05-07 05:36 pm UTC (link)
Ah, I'm pleased to hear from Dlane and Thenet again! It's a long hike they've had to where this clay will be laid out, but worth it.

To stand again on Ke Bakil ... the dust feels good beneath my feet.

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