M. C. A. Hogarth ([info]haikujaguar) wrote,
@ 2008-01-15 17:19:00
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How a Haikujaguar Sketch Becomes a Painting
I was surprised at how many of you didn't know how I work... and several of you expressed interest in knowing more. So, behind the cut you'll find a photo-riffic explanation.

Tower of Sketchbooks

I draw a lot. I used to use sketchbooks for rough drafts or to explore ideas that I would then plan and execute properly on large art paper... but as Real Life intruded, I started simplifying. My sketchbooks became the place I put all my ideas, finished or not.


Sketchbook eighty-something

So my problem became: when you have so much material and you have it trapped in an unsuitable format, how do you get it from there to one that is suitable? And this is a problem, because as everyone knows, the more obstacles you put between yourself and sitting down to finish something (anything, art or not!), the more excuses you have to not finish it. This is why my attempts at the traditional methods of art transfer were failures. I could do the "trace it with carbon paper" method, I could do the "project it with an opaque projector and trace it" method, but in each instance it was so much extra work that I tossed in the towel long before I got to the "tail in chair" part of the project. My goal was to minimize the effort between "I like this sketch!" and "I can finish this sketch!" So I batted around ideas with [info]elusivetiger, and with his help found a way to do this.

Enter technology! Take "Just Because," since it's been on my mind.

Foreground to Scan

I started with a foreground image in my sketchbook which I liked.

Background to Scan

...and noticed that I had no room for a proper background, as is often the case with a 9x12 sketchbook. So I thought about what I wanted the finished composition to look like and spent time on a background on a separate page until I had it where I wanted it.

Scan in Progress

Both pieces get scanned.

Compositing

In Photoshop, I composite the pieces together. Note that not all pieces go through this step... some have backgrounds on the same page. But I've found using Photoshop layers to put things together frees me from the "Whoops, I really liked this sketch but I have no room for a background, oh well, guess I'll skip it!" excuse. (Recall that my goal at this point is to minimize all effort between me and sketches I can finish, so the elimination of excuses is very important.)

Once compositing is done (if it's needed) I set the levels on the piece to very very very pale gray, so that the lines are barely visible. I don't even ink these pieces anymore, because the lines are so light that you can't tell if they're inked or not. This gets rid of the "I guess I'd have to ink this to scan it properly!" excuse.

Kelly's Printer


And now the printer. I used to use an Epson 1270 (and used it faithfully for eight years!). This required some effort on my part because it didn't really like taking thick paper stocks, but I found I could nurse my watercolor paper through the paper path and usually (usually!) get a clean print-out. Several of you have asked what kind of printer you can use for this purpose, and my experiments have found that the Epson dye-based printers (like my 1270) work, and now this Epson pigment-based printer (which [info]hyanan lent me until I can buy one) both produce print-outs on my Arches watercolor paper that don't smear when you add water and paint.

You absolutely have to try it on any other printer, though. Some inks do smear, and some printers don't take some kinds of paper either because of thickness or because of their surface, and some will produce smearing on some paper but not others, and some have black inks that smear but the color inks don't... I can only tell you that the two Epsons I've used have worked. [info]hyanan's is better because it's meant to run watercolor paper and canvas, so it doesn't have problems with the thick watercolor block paper... and because it's the largest size you can get without having to shell out significant money for plotter-sized printers. I like to work big; 13x40 is about the largest you can get without leaving the consumer printer market.

When I finish accumulating the money, I'll go buy this printer. But anyway, on with the story:

Many Many Bluelines

The result of this process is something I call a blueline, probably from growing up with a mechanical engineer for a father. The bluelines get stacked in a corner for when I'm feeling like I want to finish something but don't know what. I can print them out several times if I totally mess up, but if you know how expensive watercolor paper is you know you want to avoid this if at all possible. The single sheet that "Just Because" got printed onto was about $5, if I remember right.

To the Painting Table

The blueline goes moved to the painting table to be finished.

This process works for me. Why? Because almost every excuse I can come up with is wiped out by it:

  • I don't have paper around. Just draw in your sketchbook, you already have lots of those.
  • I like this sketch, but don't have room for a background. Put the background on another page.
  • I don't want to clean it up or ink it. Don't. You won't be able to tell anyway.
  • I don't feel like transferring it. You don't have to. You'll create the file you'll use when you scan it for your website.
  • It's too large/too small/on the wrong part of the page. Just change the size or crop it in Photoshop.

    At this point, if I like something, there's almost no barrier between my having drawn it initially and my finishing it. And that means more things get finished.


    And that's how I use computers in art. And why I need to get this printer... at some point!


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    [info]amarafox
    2008-01-15 10:31 pm UTC (link)
    Thank you!

    I just did some research and found that the EPSON STYLUS R1800 is probably what replaced yours, ad your printer you used to use is no longer available. It's way cheaper to get in he US.

    I'm a little leery of epson because I lost 2 to ink head clogging. Did you find you had any issues like that if you didn't print for, say, a month?

    Edited at 2008-01-15 10:32 pm UTC

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    [info]haikujaguar
    2008-01-15 10:36 pm UTC (link)
    Yeah, I was looking at the 1800... I had a couple of issues with it:

    1. It doesn't do archival printing, which my poll indicates my patrons want;
    2. It doesn't specifically say it takes canvas, posterboard or art papers. After babying the 1270 through taking thick papers for years, I'd rather buy a printer that specifically advertises that it does heavy papers.

    This is the one hyanan lent me, which I am saving money for (getting there!), which you see above in the photographs.

    Anyway, my experience with the Epsons is that, yes, the printer heads do clog if you don't use them. But that's been my experience with every printer I've used. If you leave them idle, the ink dries up. So I don't know that this is going to be any different depending on the manufacturer.

    I could be wrong, though! :)

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    (no subject) - [info]amarafox, 2008-01-15 11:15 pm UTC (Expand)

    [info]haikujaguar
    2008-01-15 10:36 pm UTC (link)
    Wait a minute, "Lost"? Like "had to throw away"? Because when I've gotten clogged ink heads, I've just run the 'clean the ink nozzle' utility that came with the printer a few times (sometimes a few dozen times) and that's fixed the issue... O_O

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    [info]tugrik
    2008-01-15 10:40 pm UTC (link)
    A nice thing about the 2400 and higher printers (even the lower end R800) is that they have auto-cleaning systems nowadays. They use a small sensor in the head to scan the output of a test-page and clean the right nozzles accordingly until they're clear. The clogging problems have gone way down as a result, even if you go longer periods of time between uses. In addition, the pigment based inks clog far less than the dye based ones, so you're already at an advantage if you stick with them.

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    [info]tugrik
    2008-01-15 10:36 pm UTC (link)
    As an aside: The Epson 3800 can be bought refurbished direct from Epson for $990 or so. Sometimes they're even cheaper on eBay. This gives you their best pigment-based inks, any kind of paper handling you could ask for and a 17" wide (up to 17x34) path. For the price it also comes with >$400 of ink.

    Considering a 2400 and the other top 13" models come with far less ink, the gap in price between the two is pretty dang small. That's why I took the 3800 route. :)

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    [info]haikujaguar
    2008-01-15 10:38 pm UTC (link)
    Bleh. $190 is a big difference, though.

    I am considering ways to sell off my plotter, because it turned out to be unsuitable for this purpose (which is the reason I bought it), but selling something so large and so expensive is a bit of a hassle and I'm not sure how to do it yet. If I do manage it, though, I might be able to swing something slightly more expensive. But... eh.

    I used to be able to throw money at these things when I was working. Ah well. :)

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    [info]elusivetiger
    2008-01-15 10:36 pm UTC (link)
    And that is why you're not a geek - you use technology for an immediate and practical end; the technology doesn't use you.

    Which is probably why it's gratifying and stimulating to help you find solutions: tools must be sublimely practical and efficient for you to use them. :)

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    [info]haikujaguar
    2008-01-15 10:42 pm UTC (link)
    I know. I get so frustrated with "BUT IT'S COOL!" type stuff if it doesn't immediately have a practical use. You're so good for putting up with my constant, "but why should I change it if it's working for me??" whining. -_-

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    [info]phinnia
    2008-01-15 10:37 pm UTC (link)
    I love your 'elimination of excuses' logic. I need to find a way to fit that into my writing.

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    [info]haikujaguar
    2008-01-15 10:40 pm UTC (link)
    Every time there's something in my life that I want to do but I find myself not doing, I go through this process of "What's in my way?" and then "How can I remove that?"

    Everything. From exercise, to painting, to eating healthier. The things I don't do are usually things I can't eliminate enough excuses to make routine... but that's where technology and process management become handy.

    I have to do another one of these "elimination of excuses" routines to paint ("I don't have a place to paint!" "My palette is too big!" "I don't have music!" "I get lonely!"). And another to write ("I'm not comfortable!" "I don't want to work on a different computer and then have to figure out where to save my files!" "I don't know how to tell which file is the most recent version!").

    And yet another version to even begin to do something creative ("I don't have any ideas!" "I don't feel like working today!" "I'm tired!"). Etc, etc. :)

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    [info]chlorophyta
    2008-01-15 11:08 pm UTC (link)
    I've learned something here. My process is similar to yours, but... with a lot of extra steps. And you're exactly right, I need to find ways to simplify the process because right now I do an awful lot of procrastinating on finishing pieces. I realized today that I basically 'inked' the same picture twice. I don't know if I'm going to be able to cut out the 'edit things and retrace the clean lines' step, but there are other ways I can cut it down.

    I do my final lines in pencil, and then print them onto paper. I find I get a more pleasing line quality with pencil, and it's nice to be able to just print out another copy of the line art when I spill water on the first one while setting up my markers. Happened today. *rolls eyes*

    PS- is the paper in the peach pads the same as the huge sheets we sell in packs of five at aoe? You should come visit me there sometime. XD

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    [info]haikujaguar
    2008-01-16 01:31 am UTC (link)
    I'm not sure (re: your PS)...

    Of course, after writing this spiffy entry about how my workflow keeps me from procrastinating on finishing art, I am sitting here, listing to one side from fatigue and... not painting. *sigh* :)

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    [info]shadow_weaver
    2008-01-15 11:09 pm UTC (link)
    Thanks for telling us all about the printers! ;D

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    [info]haikujaguar
    2008-01-16 01:26 am UTC (link)
    You're welcome? :)

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    [info]mnfiddledragon
    2008-01-15 11:49 pm UTC (link)
    Oh wow! Thank you!

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    [info]dark_blade
    2008-01-16 12:57 am UTC (link)
    *perk* What is the picture beneath the drawing of the couple with the planet in the background? Can it be found in its entirety?

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    [info]shdragon
    2008-01-16 02:21 am UTC (link)
    This is certainly an ingenious way of getting things done. :) and that reasoning of "getting rid of all my excuses" is great. I need to learn to apply that myself!

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    [info]artfulruin
    2008-01-16 03:00 am UTC (link)
    I snagged the "blueline" idea from you. It's working like a charm. :)

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    [info]jasra
    2008-01-16 03:15 am UTC (link)
    Wow, that's so neat to see/know. Thanks for sharing it.

    PS: I got my other art yesterday. Yay and thank you for the lovely art around the apartment.

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    [info]sneakingyoda
    2008-01-16 04:41 am UTC (link)
    Mmm. Now that I look at all this- I personally wonder what Kinkos could do for me. *ponders*

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    [info]puffbird
    2008-01-16 05:11 am UTC (link)
    It is nice to see someone else's process... and the reasoning behind it. Thank you for sharing this!

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    [info]synnabar
    2008-01-16 05:27 pm UTC (link)
    This is a wonderful entry - the entry itself, the images, and the replies. :) Thanks!

    I don't always go to painting a "set-aside-for-later" piece, if only because I can't leave my paints out. I'm bad, I know, but if I have to get them out, sometimes it seems too much effort. :P ;) (must change that! eliminate that excuse!) However, I do try to draw whenever I can, so I always have a sketchbook with me - even if it's not something finished, at least I'm drawing!

    BTW: After your entries a while back about PrinterLOL (and after much researching) I went out and bought a Canon PIXMA Pro 9000, for a similar purpose. Much thanks to you! Though I do scan my sketches into Photoshop, "fix" them, print them out (and sometimes still re-draw them, only to scan them in and fix them again), I never even thought of printing directly on heavier paper/a final work surface until you mentioned it. Now, to do it more...

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    [info]razzek
    2008-01-16 07:17 pm UTC (link)
    Wow, that was cool to read! I always enjoy seeing your process. :)

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    [info]hyanan
    2008-01-16 10:33 pm UTC (link)
    Yay for spiffy printer! :)

    Let's not talk about all the photography crap I need to print and dont have time for. XD

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    [info]tuftears
    2008-01-16 10:56 pm UTC (link)
    That is a lovely process indeed. };)

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